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What Really Happened on 9/11

PNAC

In the September 2000 publication by The Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the neo-conservative group explains Americas need for global dominance and an increase in American defense. The introduction of the report states that
“At present the United States faces no global rival. America’s grand strategy should aim to preserve and extend this advantageous position as far into the future as possible.”

The report explains the need for changes in Americas defense and an increase in spending. As a world power, the United States must be in position to control lingering natural gas and oil supplies, while maintaining the largest and most powerful military. The report admits it will be a long process, which needs to be accelerated. In a now famous line from the PNAC report, “the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.”

The authors of the PNAC realized that America will not willingly revolutionize our defense system unless we are given a reason to feel it being necessary. Even though, America is a clear world power, a catastrophic event like a new Peal Harbor would easily accelerate America’s new, larger and much more aggressive Department of Defense.

So, who wrote this report, who would suggest that a new Pearl Harbor would be a good thing for the United States? The real question is, who would benefit from such a terrible event. Obviously, those involved in the business of defense, and those involved in the oil industry. Member and authors of The Project for The New American Century, include Dick Cheney, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush and many other prominent conservatives who were appointed to the Bush Administration following his 2000 Election.

The Carlyle Group

The Carlyle Group, a global investment firm has brought much suspicion about the members and their positions in high level government offices around the world. Most of the companies they invest in are highly sensitive to political activity. The Carlyle Group is the largest private equity firm located in Washington, D.C. Carlyle is considered a private military contractor, because it owns controlling or partial interests in several military contractors, for example, United Defense Industries.

Saudi Arabians interests invested $1.4 Billion in a company, Braddock, Dunn & McDonald, a defense company which was owned by the Carlyle Group at the time. Both Former President Bush and current President Bush have sat on the board of directors of The Carlyle Group and some of its child companies. Other major investors of the Carlyle Group include the Saudi Binladin Group SBG. Although, the Saudi Binladin Group has publicly disowned Osama Bin Laden, (Many of Osama Bin Ladens siblings work for SBG), some members have remained in touch with the al-Qaeda leader.

George W. Bush left the Carlyle Group in 1992 to run for the Governor of Texas, however his Father George H.W. Bush remained on the board of directors until October 2003.

The day before the 9/11 attacks, George H.W. Bush and several members of his cabinet had been present at a Carlyle Group business conference with Shafig Bin Laden a brother of Osama bin Laden at the Ritz-Carlton hotel located several miles from the Pentagon. The conference was continuing with the remaining cabinet members and Bin Laden's brother at the time of the Pentagon attack. The New York Times reported that members of the bin Laden family were flown under FBI supervision to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington from where they left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks. The official 9/11 Commission later concluded that "the FBI conducted a satisfactory screening of Saudi nationals who left the United States on charter flights" and that the exodus was approved by special advisor Richard Clarke after a request by Saudi Arabia who feared for the safety of their nationals.

Richard Clarke was a member of the Bush Administration and specialized in Counter-Terrorism.

NORADS failure on the morning of 9/11

For the first time in American History, the Vice President was appointed to control over NORAD, Americas air defense command center. On May 8, 2001, Dick Cheney took control of NORAD. This placed him in position to conduct training exercises throughout the entire federal government and all military agencies.

On the morning of September 11, 2001 Dick Cheney ordered multiple training exercises and drills that would later confuse NORAD when the planes on the East Coast were hijacked. The drills Cheney conducted including using airplanes as weapons in the United States. When the initial reports of the hijackings came in to NORAD, massive confusion resulted in the belief that it was part of the training exercise.

In the year 2000, before September 11th, NORAD had successfully intercepted 68 or 68 flights which had diverted off course or failed to respond to Air Traffic Control instructions. NORAD had an average response time of 15 minutes before 9/11. Because of the confusing training exercises being conducted that morning, NORAD failed to scramble fighters until it was too late. The F-15 fighters that were eventually scrambled from Otis Air Force Base, 48 minutes after the first flight showed signs of hijacking, cruised towards New York at a mere 350 knots. F-15s are capable of cruise speeds well in excess of 1000 knots. Why did NORAD fail so bad on 9/11, when they have never failed to intercept a hijacked airline before? General Myers, under Dick Cheney’s authority issued an Air Force Stand down because of the confusion. Fighters were not scrambled until after the Pentagon was hit.

The World Trade Center

A little background information on the design of the towers helps understand why their collapse is so important. First of all, the towers were designed to be the strongest skyscrapers ever built. Before they were designed, the Empire States Building was accidentally hit by a WWII bomber, making obvious how important structural integrity in such tall buildings is. The towers were designed to handle 150mph winds, bombs, earthquakes, fires and of course an airplane strike. When they were built, the designers said it could survive multiple strikes by a Boeing 707.

What made the towers so strong was a central core of 47 steel columns acting as a “spine.” The towers had both the external structure and the central core for maximum strength. The steel used in the towers was tested prior to their construction by Under Writers Laboratory, or UL. During their testing, they heated the steel to over 2,000F for 6 hours. After seeing no signs of melting of failure, UL was satisfied. Even though steel melts at extremely high temperatures, and with the thick steel used in the towers, it would have to burn for a long period of time to fail, they made the decision to spray all of the steel in the building with Asbestos, a fire proofing material. After 9/11, a UL employee spoke out saying that there is no way the steel in the towers melted, causing the collapse. Instead of launching an investigation to see if the steel should have melted, he was fired.

Six weeks before 9/11 Larry Silverstein purchased the remaining buildings of the World Trade Center that he didn’t previously own. Silverstein, a billionaire New York real estate investor took out a record insurance policy on the newly purchased towers. His insurance policy specifically covered acts of terrorism and offered $3.55 Billion in coverage. After 9/11, he demanded $7.1 Billion, claiming each place was a separate act of terrorism. He was later awarded $2.2 Billion after a court battle.

Marvin P. Bush, brother of George W. Bush sat on the board of directors of Securacom which provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. According to the CEO of Securacom and Barbra Bush’s memoir, Securacoms contract to provide security for the WTC ended September, 2001.

Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers 1 & 2

WTC 2 was hit at 9:02 am, and fell 56 minutes later. WTC 1 was hit at 8:46 and fell 102 minutes later. According to the official story in the 9/11 Commission, the damage caused by the impact of the airplanes and the fires which burned afterwards caused the towers to fall.

The 9/11 Commission reports that the intense fires that burned caused the steel supports that held up each floor to weaken and collapse, allowing them to fall to the floor below, which in turn collapsed and fell to the floor below. This resulted in a pancake effect as each floor landed on the one below.

Based common sense and scientific fact, this theory is impossible for many reasons.

First of all, jet fuel burns at a maximum temperature of around 1800F. Steel starts to melt at 2500F. Steel, concrete and glass which made up most of the towers don’t even burn. The office furniture, computers, carpet and sheetrock walls burn much cooler than jet fuel, at a maximum of 1500F.

Secondly, the large fireballs that erupted when the planes hit the towers were of course, jet fuel. Although impossible to know, it’s likely that almost all of the jet fuel was burned in the initial fireball. The black smoke that came from the towers after the planes crashed indicate that the fire was starved of oxygen, making them burn much cooler than their maximum temperatures.

There were no indications that the fires were intense. The firefighters that reached the fires radioed that there were only small pockets of fire, and they should be able to quickly put them out. In addition, people were seen standing in the holes the planes left, and in windows on the floor of impact indicating that the fires were not excessively hot.

Remember, most of the building was non flammable, there was little or no fuel to burn, and not enough oxygen to allow the fires to do much damage. In the history of steel structures, the only ones to fall from fire are the WTC buildings. No steel structure has ever fallen from fire alone.

Fires did not cause the World Trade Center towers to fall, but what about the damage the aircraft caused? Elementary physics and a little common sense take care of that theory too. Each WTC tower consisted of more than 90,000 tons of concrete alone. The external structure was made up of a combination of steel and concrete, and don’t forget the 47 steel columns in the center of the building. Are we too believe that the soft, hollow aluminum aircraft weighing only 300,00 lbs pierced through all the concrete and the steel? Looking at the wreckage of aircraft accidents, it’s highly unlikely the airplanes even made it to the core columns. As a testament to the buildings strength, they didn’t budge when they were struck by the airliners.

When the towers did fall, they blew a fine dust outwardly in all directions and fell at freefall speed. What was left when the dust settled was almost nothing at all. The entire buildings had been pulverized into a fine dust that was blown all over Manhattan. The Governments official reasoning for the collapse was the pancake theory. The pancake theory involves each floor failing separately when the floor above lands on it. If this were the case, the building would have started failing slowly at the top, picking up speed as it went. Had this been the case it would have taken at least 50 seconds to fall, instead it only took 9. In addition, each floor falling to the floor below does not address the core columns. In fact, a computer animation put out by the Government shows how they believe each floor falls, and in the animation, the core column remains standing.

The pancake theory has two more major flaws. First, if each floor had fallen neatly on the floor below, a huge pile would have been left at the end of the collapse. Instead there was a pile of dust and rubble only a couple stories high. Secondly, as can clearly be seen, the building exploded into dust in all directions. How could outwardly exploding dust cause a pancake of the entire building? The 9/11 commission failed to ask these questions.

Another interesting point to note; both buildings fell squarely straight down, even though the airplanes hit in a very different fashion. The first plane hit square on, while the second, nearly missing, hit the corner of the building in a steep bank. The damage and fires caused by each plane should have effected the buildings very differently, yet each building fell the exact same way.

Finally, when watching video of the towers collapsing, visible explosions can be seen exiting the buildings well below the falling debris. These visible explosions are seen on the three levels of the towers where additional supports were placed. This fact alone is enough to constitute reopening the investigation of their collapse, because it goes so strongly against the official explanation.

WTC Building 7

The twin towers were not the only major buildings to fall on 9/11. WTC 7, a massive 47 story skyscraper across the street from the rest of the complex also fell. Silverstein owned this building well before the rest of the complex. Building 7 is the single largest fact overlooked in the 9/11 investigations. Building 7 was not struck by an airplane, and suffered no damage during the attacks, yet it fell to the ground at freefall speed later that day.

When building 7 fell, it displayed all of the characteristics associated with a controlled demolition. The collapse began as the small penthouse on the top fell first, falling into building. All of the exterior walls fell inward leaving a small pile within its own footprint. For the third time on September 11, 2001, a steel structure fell at freefall speeds leaving a small pile of dust and rubble where a massive building stood just seconds before.

Visible explosions can be seen at every floor a fraction of a second before it began to collapse. Amazingly enough, the collapse of Building 7 caused almost no damage to the buildings on either side. Remember, Building 7 was not on the same block at the rest of the complex. On one side, the US Post office, the other, Verizon Wireless headquarters. Both buildings suffered only broken windows.

What was the Governments explanation for the unbelievable collapse of this building? There was no explanation. The 9/11 Commission didn’t even mention Building 7. The collapse of Building 7 is the most important, incredible and bizarre structural failure in history. Yet, it’s almost completely forgotten about, much thanks to the Media. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and FOX NEWS have refused to broadcast footage of the collapse since September 11, 2001.
Building 7 is not only important because President Bush and Rudolph Guliani destroyed the evidence before any investigation could be conducted, but because of its occupants.
Occupants of Building 7 include The CIA, FBI, , Department of Defense, Secrete Service, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, the Mayors office of Emergency Management, and Mayor Guliani’s Bomb proof emergency bunker.

Rudolph Guliani, a former prosecutor, knew better than to allow any evidence to remain, which is why all of the remains of the WTC was immediately recycled and destroyed before any type of investigation, could be conducted.

And finally, the company immediately selected to clean up and remove the remains of the WTC Complex was none other than, Controlled Demolition, Inc.


We Must Stand Up


The information above only begins to scrape the surface of the amount of information out there pointing to a Government cover up. There are serious questions about the Pentagon damage that need to be investigated too. For example, the damaged area of the pentagon is roughly 70 feet wide, while the wingspan of a Boeing 757 is more than double that. There is no damage where the wings, engines and tail supposedly hit, yet damage was found 350 feet from the outer wall on the “C” ring of the pentagon.

Between the Bush and Bin Laden family ties, Cheney’s New Pearl Harbor dream, The Carlyle Groups huge defense contracts, Larry Silverstein’s huge payout, and the impossible explanation of the WTC collapse; enough information is available to point to a Government cover up.

The reason almost all of this information has never made the mainstream media is simple. After 9/11 patriotism in the county skyrocketed, and to question the official story would be viewed as anti-American. As Bush said himself, “You’re either with us, or against us.”

Since 9/11, legislation has been passed that directly contradicts the Constitution, yet no one cried foul. Government spying on American citizens has been carried out, and no one has cried foul. We have been constantly bombarded with false terrorism threats, in order to keep us supporting the death of our own Civil Liberties, much thanks to FOX NEWS which has reported hundreds of false terrorism threats, none of which have come true.

The United States Government was founded on the idea of being able to revolt against our Government. However, since 9/11 our own Government has become more and more corrupt stealing our civil liberties in exchange for a false sense of security.

As Ben Franklin once said “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
The American public has willingly given up both.

We must, at a very minimum demand the investigation of 9/11 be reopened. Too many unanswered questions remain. Too much is at stake, too many lives have already been lost.

And Finally, What is more likely; 9/11 was a psychological attack on the American people orchestrated by the highest levels of our government, and pulled of with military precision, or a small group of extremists living in caves with box cutters crippled America?


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[*] posted on 2-7-07 at 08:47 AM   «:|:»  Link to post Reply With Quote


Damn E-tan, your all about the 9/11 conspiracies now! Whats that all about? Your like 6 years too late, lol. Nah, but atleast your letting those "alternative" possibilities into your frame of thought. Im not quite sure why I have lost the drive that you seem to be full of but I have. Bush and all those associated w/ those events I dont think will ever be held accountable. We are over half a decade past 9/11 and the bulk of the Patriot Act is still in effect, we have invaded and fought in TWO countries with imminent plans for a third. Something even more extreme in the opposite direction would have to go down before the population would even allow themselves to question the events of 9/11.

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agreed with spenc, it is awesome that you see how terrible these people are but just a little late. But better now than never right? Now keep looking, if the government can do shit like this in front of our eyes imagine what they are doing behind closed doors *cough* UFO *cough* selling drugs *cough* sorry had a bout there.

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[*] posted on 2-7-07 at 05:34 PM   «:|:»  Link to post Reply With Quote


ahhhh..... Well, I guess I never even considered the time frame to matter. However, Bush is out of offfice in two years, but I think the mess he will have left is worth fighting for a little justice....

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Wheather or not Bush is in office this is still a major problem. Even if it did happen 6 years ago, these people are still in power and still pushing the same agenda that caused them to attack the World Trade Centers.

What bothers me is that no one in any position of power has said anything. This information is readily available and widely known about. There are over 500 members of congress and not a single person has done a goddamn thing. Which begs the question why.

How many people are in on this? How far up the governmental chain does this really go?

I find it hard to believe the the ENTIRE government is a body of corrupt individuals. I could be wrong.

At the same time I'm trying to be somewhat skeptical about this whole thing. I remain slightly reserved about the idea that there are people this evil controling so much. However, I'm waiting for a pretext for war with Iran. As it stands now, the american people, and the global community would not stand for an invasion of Iran. But we just need to be scared a little by our government and we will be coerced into anything.

Thanks for the post E.

What can we do? Anybody wana pass out fliers or something? Maybe a presentation to some political groups on campus? People are coming around but slowly. Any other ideas?
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Out of left field...WOW rosie.




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Damn, Rossie must feel confident in her job security

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I just saw a report on this on FOX news and they say that Rosie is being paid to push these extreme views by the liberal media... lol

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ok i want you guy to see this and tell me what you think
http://www.debunking911.com/firsttime.htm




I stopped reading after i read how they said it fell down and were talking about the design of the towers. And it really doesn't matter about the design the fact of the matter is that when the structural integrity of the building is compromised it is from that point, where the weakness start or in other words where the plan hit going up, not down. And yes i am aware that the weight of the building coming down from above might compromise some of the lower levels but not all of them like they did. Now the buildings were built, like the pictures state, with a massive column in the middle. So in a square/ rectangle there is four sides. sides 1-4, also not counting the roof or basement sides, for ease of reference. The plane hit only one of these sides, lets say side 1. The fire would have gone into that side of the building but not further. It most certainly would not have been on all parts of that floor. So it would have been on side 1 and at most half of side 2 and 3 assuming that side 4 is the one opposite from side 1. Now this could have been hot enough to dmg the steel, i dont think it is but for the non believers sake. But when the support of a building is compromised then it will fall towards the weakest side, in our case side 1. NOw the top of the towers fell straight down. This does not go along with what we know of physics which is that it should fall towards the weakest side being side 1.


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My favorite is that "the jet fuel burned so hot that it melted the steel" BULL SHIT! 1. Open flames cant reach temps that high. 2. There are fucking pictures of people looking out of the giant wholes the planes left when they slammed into the buildings, so the fires werent' hot enough to cook people but hot enough to melt steel, YA RIGHT! 3. Building number 7, if you have to ask what it was then that just prooves my point all the more.

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Thank you so much for your informative posts
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Your posts containing the external links have been removed. I have not banned you in hopes that you do in fact wish to be a contributing member.


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